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Mar. 21st, 2004 09:31 pmTo: {artistic Frenchwoman}
From: {the kitten}
Subject: Damn...
So, it looks like I owe you $30 when you get back. You're never getting good odds again, although I'd still like to try and gather statistical data on your precog, even if you didn't do this one as a precog. *grin* On the bright side, I guess it means I get to help insure that your date is nice.
-Kitty
From: {the kitten}
Subject: Damn...
So, it looks like I owe you $30 when you get back. You're never getting good odds again, although I'd still like to try and gather statistical data on your precog, even if you didn't do this one as a precog. *grin* On the bright side, I guess it means I get to help insure that your date is nice.
-Kitty
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:00 pm (UTC)From: (Angie)
Subject: Re: Damn...
It is a terrible shame Doug is too ethical to place bets -for- me. Though, I really did not use my precognition on that bet.
I had an idea about the statistical data, after watching Shinobi read the paper, actually. How much do you know about stocks?
~Angie
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:05 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
Subject: Re: Damn...
And by 'terrible shame' you mean a very, very good thing. My wallet can only take so much damage before I'll have to close book forever.
As for stocks... interesting idea. I might know enough, and anything I don't know I bet I could get Shinobi or Ms. Frost to explain. You know, that could be _really_ profitable... Highly unethical, but really profitable.
-K
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:10 pm (UTC)From: (Angie)
Subject: Stocks
That is true. I still say it was a lucky guess though. If he teaches a law class, -then- I will be suprised. Though not as much as I should be. Nathan has a law degree.
It would be no more unethical than Doug using his power to program computers and make money that way, I think. I am not sure if I could even -do- something like that. The stock pages make no sense to me at all.
~Angie
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:22 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
Subject: Re: Stocks
I don't know, seeing the future would probably be called insider trading if we were obvious about it. Doug writing a fantastic computer program using his power isn't unethical, but my walking through walls to rob people would be. You predicting the stocks (or sporting events, if you want to keep scamming unsuspecting bookies *grin*) would probably fall somewhere in the middle.
And this is why I'm _not_ taking the mutant ethics class this term.
Well, we could both talk to Ms. Frost or Shinobi then. Although I'd like to see what you could do with pure data (just the stock page w/out any context) and then see what happened if you understood what you were looking at. What do you say after we get back from Minesota we start an experiment?
-K
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:30 pm (UTC)From: (Angie)
Subject: Re: Stocks
I am not even sure if I can -do- that. The outcome of asking Doug out on a date is one thing. That is simply a good outcome versus a bad one.
Yes, I casted for that. It seemed appropiate. It is eerie to get the same card four times in a row in a reading.
I -am- taking ethics. I am trying to not think about it right now.
I am definitly up for an experiment. I am very curious about if this would work or not.
`Angie
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:40 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
Subject: Re: Stocks
Sure, but a stock going up or down is a good outcome vs. a bad outcome. I mean, if you're actually investing it gets more complicated, but let's start simple.
(You casted about Doug? Actually, I'm not that surprised, and now you've got me curious...)
Don't worry, there's nothing unethical about the experiment. I mean, it doesn't start getting unethical unless we're actually investing, or telling results to somebody who is.
What I'm thinking for the experiment to start is we chose twenty stocks. Ten you consciously try to predict what will happen, and the other ten you 'guess', if you can. And, as a control, we'll have Jamie or Doug or somebody guess about the same set. Do it for, oh, two weeks or so to get a nice statistical spread. Then you and I go in to talk with Shinobi or Ms. Frost to try and get at least some clue of what we're doing/looking at, and repeat the whole thing. How does that sound? Too much? Too little? Too imposible?
-K
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Date: 2004-03-21 07:50 pm (UTC)From: (Angie)
Subject: Stocks & Doug
I suppose it would be at that.
He is not the only nervous one about the date. I just have an advantage. I knew it would go well, at the least, the asking of it, and when -his- card comes up that many times in a row...
That sounds like it could work. If nothing else it would give me a good idea of what I can and cannot predict. I think.. maybe not Doug. His power is so odd, I would think it would make him not a ... what is the term? controlling group?
T
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Date: 2004-03-21 08:24 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
Subject: Re: Stocks
Don't worry too much, babe. I'm sure things will go smashingly. Of course, I can hardly say you nay about being nervous, since I was kind of the same on my first date with Jamie.
I don't really think Doug's power would come into play, but you could be right. At any rate, it might be good to have a whole control group, not just Doug. Certainly Jamie's power wouldn't affect it. I probably oughtn't (never get involved in your own experiments), but we might be able to ask Rahne, Jubes, or Terry, cause none of them have powers that would fall into the scope of this.
-K
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Date: 2004-03-21 08:51 pm (UTC)From: (Angie)
Subject: Re: Stocks
I am certain it will. I am still nervous. I think more for Doug than about anything else.
Doug's power is ... beyond anything I can understand, so I do not know enough to say if it would or not. I think perhaps several people might be a good idea though. I am not sure how to word it. It.. reduces the chance that it could just be luck or a random good choice on my part.
~Angie
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Date: 2004-03-21 09:53 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
Subject: Re: Stocks
Agreed, Doug's power is really strange - not as strange as all of yours though, IMO. Near as I can tell, Doug's more about understanding intentional communication than predicting paterns, but *shrug*. So yeah, we'll ask the other girls, and Jamie, and might as well have Doug do it anyways, just to see what happens.
-K
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Date: 2004-03-22 08:29 am (UTC)CC: (Doug)
From: (Angie)
Subject: Re: Stocks
It cannot hurt to ask him, and if he happens to be very good at it, all the better.
Did you and he ever manage to figure out how the code thing he was trying worked? (I CC'd him, because if you and he did not, you should and I am terribly curious.)
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Date: 2004-03-22 12:49 pm (UTC)From: {the kitten}
CC: {linguisist}
Subject: Re: Stocks
No, asking never hurts. And to explain, Doug, we're planing on running some tests to gather statistical data on Angie's precog using the stock sheets. Will explain the whole thing in person.
Haven't taken the time to try and futz about with Doug's powers, but you're right Angie, if he hasn't figured it out we probably ought to try some things. Not sure _what_ yet, though.
-K