[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] xp_communication
To: (La petite chat)
CC: (Knight of Cups), (Jamiejamiejamie)
From: (High Priestess)
Subject: That stock market expirement



I find myself with some free time on my hands, and since we are back from Minnesota, I am willing to start this whenever you are, Kitty.

Who else, besides Doug and Jamie, do we want to recruit for a control group? (That is the correct term, yes?)

Date: 2004-04-05 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
To: {artistic Frenchwoman}
CC: {cutest ever}, {universal translator}
From: {the kitten}
Subject: That stock market expirement

I can start whenever you like. I'm mainly the coallator. *grin*

I'd say we tap anyone who's interested who's powers aren't in futures or probably telepathy either. We want uncorrupted data, and it's hard to be absolutely certain with telepaths. I'd say we could ask any of:

Angelo, Bobby, John, Marie, Rahne, Terry, Jubes, Al, Kurt, Sam, Paige, Clarice, Shinobi, Sarah, Tabs, Waren, Jake, Mr. Wisdom, Dr. McCoy, etc.
Might also be interesting to get Dr. McTaggart, Mr. Lee, and Dr. Samson, for a non-mutant sample, although in theory it shouldn't make a difference.
Would probably be a good idea to not have people who would know anything about stocks, though, which would exclude people like Jake, Shinboi, and Waren, at least. And we might want to include at least one of the adults, so that we're not 'experimenting with our powers without supervision', etc, etc.

What do you think?

-K

Date: 2004-04-05 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
To: {Imax Lass}
CC: {Chewbacca}, {Gorgeous One}
Subject: What stock market experiment?

Did I miss a memo?

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
That sounds fun. Count me in. I even swear not to intentionally pick funny stocks.

And all e-mail nicknames are silly, it's a rule.

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
I've always thought pork belly futures were pretty amusing. And you never know what'll happen with those three-letter abbreviations.

It is indeed an important difference. Both are fun though.

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Date: 2004-04-05 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
I don't know exactly. I think it has to do with trying to predict how well pork bellies will do next year and investing based on that. Mostly it just sounds funny.

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
Nope. I'm picking the stocks, and I'm doing it randomly. Everybody gets the same set of twenty.

-K

(Sorry, forgot to mention to you, Jamie. Or rather, I meant to and then you were all distracting at me and I forgot.)

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
So the difference is we decide individually how much to buy and when to sell and stuff?

(No harm done, I know now, and I got to be all distracting at you earlier. Well enough to make you forget stuff, even. :))

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
Well, I think we were thinking of starting more simply. Just predicting whether or not they will go up or down, and by how much.

Hmm...

Yeah, I guess we never said anything more than that in our original outline. Not sure how I'd set it up if we were doing 'buying and selling'.

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Date: 2004-04-05 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Oh, that makes more sense. This is why you design the science experiments and I provide the snacks, love. :) So when do we start?

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Date: 2004-04-05 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
*laugh*

We start sometime after we get a few more controls. M-A, you want to ask people, since it's your power we're testing? We probably ought to get at least five controls total, (so at least three more), but I could handle up to ten, I'm sure, especially if you're still worried about how Doug's power will affect things.

-K

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Date: 2004-04-05 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
*nod* yeah, and try and get one who doesn't know about stocks.

Hmm. You have a point, but if his data is too abarrant I'll just throw it out. Maybe ask one other person just in case.

-K

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Date: 2004-04-05 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Trials of dating geeks, right, Angie? :)

'Course, I'm the one who started taking physics for the cute girl in the class and ended up learning how to play with so-advanced-it-can't-see-the-edge holographic technology for fun, so maybe I'm not one to talk.

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Date: 2004-04-05 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Will do. But he's going under there all by himself. I'm not risking any extremely-well-read dust bunnies with laser guns.

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Date: 2004-04-05 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
Well, Mr. Dayspring's out, cause he's a 'path. But we could see if Bobby or John or maybe Marie would be willing to be our staff observer. And I guess if they know a little about stocks it would be ok, but not a lot. Er, that might let Mr. Wisdom into it, or maybe Mr. Summers and Ms. Munroe. Oh, and probably Kurt and Sam would qualify, cause I doubt Kurt would know much about US stocks, at least.

And, actually, we might not have to have them actually taking part in the experiment. It might be enough if they were just observing/monitoring to make sure we didn't do something stupid (not sure how we could do something stupid predicting stocks though...) So then you could ask Al or Ms. Frost or really anyone. We're going to want to talk to Ms. Frost eventually anyways.

-K

Date: 2004-04-05 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
To: (mon coeur)
CC: (Clown Prince), (the shadowcat)
From: (Knight of Cups)
Subject: Re: That stock market experiment

Yeah, I'm ready whenever you guys are. But maybe in addition to predicting whether or not stocks will go up or down, we might also try our hand at actually simulating buying and selling? Because in some cases it would probably be easy to predict things, if you read the business section of the newspaper. I mean, if a company's got a new innovation, their stock will probably go up. If they're under investigation for dodgy business practices, it'll probably go down. We should give some thought to these sorts of issues, I think.

-Doug

Date: 2004-04-05 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
To: {universal translator}
CC: {cutest ever}, {artistic Frenchwoman}
From: {the kitten}

Doug, don't you dare corrupt my control group. The whole point of testing M-A on a topic she doesn't understand is that the data won't have an outside influence. We're doing a secondary test _after_ the first one for which we will learn about stocks, trading, and so on, but if you corrupt the first data set it'll all be a wash.

I've got an inbuilt double blind (since I have no way of controling the stocks prices), but I can't do anything if you go around messing with my source of data.

Sheesh. What sort of experimental theory did they _teach_ you before you got here, anyway? Dr. McCoy would throw a fit.

-K

Date: 2004-04-05 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
To: {artistic Frenchwoman}
CC: {cutest ever}, {universal translator}
From: {the kitten}

I could, but it would cut out the possibility of a double blind (so I don't influence the results), and would be hard to make into something you could predict. I'd have to write a serious random number generator, it'd be at least a month's worth of programing and it a) wouldn't be random (cause no random numbe generator is), and therefor b) no double blind, and c) difficult to control.

Doable, but frustrating.

Would be easier to just throw out Doug's data if it makes a serious difference, and to forbid him from talking to you about stocks. At least as much as possible.

Blast it Doug. You ought to know better. *pouts a frustrated pure research scientist pout*

-K

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